Trout stamp

[Cznymph]

I don't disagree at all...

I barely fish for stocked trout and at two place where I do, I belong to a fish & game that does most of the stocking, yet I buy a trout stamp every year without complaint. I'm also all for fiscal responsibility and managing the resources responsibly.

However, there are a minority of people (I'll call them purist zealots 😉) who are 100% against stocking on principal and/or because of an infinitesimal chance a wild trout exists somewhere in that watershed.

Membership also requires hatred of brown & rainbow trout, spin fisherman, distrust of goverment in general, the PFBC specifically and they don't want to pay for trout stamps.

They obviously have the right to their opinions as well...

However, after awhile I grow weary of the constant references about "mush-mouth" stockers, the name calling and references to the illegal act of deliberately killing stocked trout because of the purists "principals."

Not to mention the condescending attitude directed or implied toward fellow anglers who could care less that the fish they are so proud to post a photo of isn't wild...

I get it, but I don't like it any more than the "brookies über alles" nonsense a few years back...

Could you identify for me the statute that prohibits someone from catching a limit of trout and promptly disposing of them once they return home?

 

[sixfootfenwick]

Could you identify for me the statute that prohibits someone from catching a limit of trout and promptly disposing of them once they return home?

I'd like to know also, I really don't want to have to change the way I fertilize.

 

[sixfootfenwick]

I don't disagree at all...

I barely fish for stocked trout and at two place where I do, I belong to a fish & game that does most of the stocking, yet I buy a trout stamp every year without complaint. I'm also all for fiscal responsibility and managing the resources responsibly.

However, there are a minority of people (I'll call them purist zealots 😉) who are 100% against stocking on principal and/or because of an infinitesimal chance a wild trout exists somewhere in that watershed.

Membership also requires hatred of brown & rainbow trout, spin fisherman, distrust of goverment in general, the PFBC specifically and they don't want to pay for trout stamps.

They obviously have the right to their opinions as well...

However, after awhile I grow weary of the constant references about "mush-mouth" stockers, the name calling and references to the illegal act of deliberately killing stocked trout because of the purists "principals."

Not to mention the condescending attitude directed or implied toward fellow anglers who could care less that the fish they are so proud to post a photo of isn't wild...

I get it, but I don't like it any more than the "brookies über alles" nonsense a few years back...

You had me in the first half but lost me by the end.

 

[Cznymph]

I'd like to know also, I really don't want to have to change the way I fertilize.

Spoiler Alert: it’s not illegal as previously claimed. There is no wanton waste law in PA.

 

[sixfootfenwick]

Spoiler Alert: it’s not illegal as previously claimed. There is no wanton waste law in PA.

I know, it's a game retrieval law, which once the game or fish is taken home from the field, it has been retrieved.

I've literally had entire conversations with WCOs on this matter.

 

[wildtrout2]

Could you identify for me the statute that prohibits someone from catching a limit of trout and promptly disposing of them once they return home?

Or, the one that prohibits stocked trout fishermen from bringing home every trout they catch and freeze them, only to have them get freezer burn from sitting in there sooo long they need to be thrown out? Waste is waste...

 

[Mike]

It's a mix mash. Right now I can think of several streams that produce very large Pennsylvania wild brown trout with special regulations. Example: Letort / Lackawanna River.

The Lackawanna and the Letort are also both class A.

Based on fish population surveys and per the former AFM the big browns in the Lackawanna have nothing to do with special regs. Big brown density in the special regs section did not change after implementation of special regs. Also, big brown density in statewide reg sections was the same as in the special reg sections.

As for the Letort, in the late 1970’s our electrofishing crew could not find a trout 20” or longer in the special reg area sampling site. Extra electrofishing following the survey, but using a 16 ft electrofishing boat this time and heading upstream a very substantial distance finally produced a big brown. Meanwhile, Letort surveys since then have had a history of producing more big browns outside of the special reg area than from within the special reg area.

 

[The Rodfather]

I wish I could just throw them to the bank instead of taking them home to dispose of them, but alas.

 

[5footfenwick]

I wish I could just throw them to the bank instead of taking them home to dispose of them, but alas.

No recipe? No smoker? No garden? No catfishing? There has to be something useful to do with them other than straight disposal lol 😂

 

[Bamboozle]

Spoiler Alert: it’s not illegal as previously claimed. There is no wanton waste law in PA.

Spoiler alert...

If you choose to waste resources by throwing stockers in your own garden or the garden of another cult member with permission, you are OK.

However if you choose to chuck the interloper on the bank of your favorite gemmie stream as has been advocated & encouraged by some...

You ARE in violation of the law:

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[The Rodfather]

No recipe? No smoker? No garden? No catfishing? There has to be something useful to do with them other than straight disposal lol 😂

I don't want the contamination. Or i could sneak them to the crotchety lady's dog down the hill. I could also use them for garden. But that's about it.

 

[sixfootfenwick]

Based on fish population surveys and per the former AFM the big browns in the Lackawanna have nothing to do with special regs. Big brown density in the special regs section did not change after implementation of special regs. Also, big brown density in statewide reg sections was the same as in the special reg sections.

As for the Letort, in the late 1970’s our electrofishing crew could not find a trout 20” or longer in the special reg area sampling site. Extra electrofishing following the survey, but using a 16 ft electrofishing boat this time and heading upstream a very substantial distance finally produced a big brown. Meanwhile, Letort surveys since then have had a history of producing more big browns outside of the special reg area than from within the special reg area.

I never said the special regulations caused the big brown trout, but I was squashing the notion it might hinder them also.

Come on Mike, it has more to do with habitat and food availability, not harvest or lack there of.

 

[Cznymph]

Spoiler alert...

If you choose to waste resources by throwing stockers in your own garden or the garden of another cult member with permission, you are OK.

However if you choose to chuck the interloper on the bank of your favorite gemmie stream as has been advocated & encouraged by some...

You ARE in violation of the law:

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If I catch any browns on the stream on my property, they will go on the bank.

Perfectly legal.

 

[Bamboozle]

I do the same with brook trout on the stream on my property...

 

[The Rodfather]

Sounds like more waterways for creek chub and fallfish. Dauphin County League of Chubsmen can get on board with that.

 

[sixfootfenwick]

Spoiler alert...

If you choose to waste resources by throwing stockers in your own garden or the garden of another cult member with permission, you are OK.

However if you choose to chuck the interloper on the bank of your favorite gemmie stream as has been advocated & encouraged by some...

You ARE in violation of the law:

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Ok, not one person ever disputed that 😂
But you did in another thread, including this one.

Your accusations are ridiculous.
I'm not in a cult, and I don't fertilize other people's gardens. I got enough work to do.

Waste of resources is highly debatable. I 💯 guarantee my organic garden is of a much higher nutritional value than the stockers that go in it.

Lighten up.

 

[sixfootfenwick]

If I catch any browns on the stream on my property, they will go on the bank.

Perfectly legal.

I do the same with brook trout on the stream on my property...

Tell you both what, I'll expand my garden another 300sq foot and I'll take both your fish.

 

[sixfootfenwick]

If I catch any browns on the stream on my property, they will go on the bank.

Perfectly legal.

Looking at the law, as posted by Bamboozle, I suppose you could fish a stocked stream and as long as there is a trash can, like in a park, you can deposit your fish on the way to leave?

I'm reading that right aren't I?

 

[The Rodfather]

I'll bet there is a former board member laughing hysterically at the derailment of this thread.

 

[Captain Wader Farts]

Looking at the law, as posted by Bamboozle, I suppose you could fish a stocked stream and as long as there is a trash can, like in a park, you can deposit your fish on the way to leave?

I'm reading that right aren't I?

Yes, you can. This is why there have been significant efforts to stock directly into the trash cans at certain streams. Here is a photo I took last year.