dudemanspecial
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That isn't PFBC's fault. Their job isn't to worry about bridges. They also can't take money out of the capital fund without someone okaying it.
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dudemanspecial
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I like John Arway.
It also wouldn't suprise me if the author posted that under John's name himself.
sixfootfenwick
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I don't think I'm saying that is their fault. I'm saying this shouldn't happen and they need to be more fiscally responsible to make sure it doesn't.
sixfootfenwick
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Come on, don't be ridiculous. Lots of us know Arway, I'm sure that can be easily confirmed.
I just looked at the article and the comments again. He has commented more and frankly based on those comments I'm very sure it is him.
sixfootfenwick
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Here are his thoughts on the stocking program as it is.
John Arway was always been very common sense. I also enjoyed his thread on here about how Class A wild trout streams should be C&R .
John Arway was always been very common sense. I also enjoyed his thread on here about how Class A wild trout streams should be C&R .
Good comments made there in a civil manner by Arway and a previous forum member here. That was good to read. Thanks for pushing me back to the article.
Commentary: Pennsylvania Fish & Boat Commission should cut back on trout stocking - Outdoor News
The agency is foolishly putting all its eggs in the hatchery basket. Instead, kids need more stream access near home and youth-fishing programs for already abundant wild fish.www.outdoornews.com
I'm just curious to your thoughts on John Arway himself commenting on this article and giving credence to the authors talking points.
Serious question: Are all of the clubs that raise and stock trout autonomous and self-funded, or do they receive government monies to help their efforts?
PFBC co-op nurseries receive free fish and some free food, as well as free treatments for sick fish, in addition to being eligible to receive grant monies from the PFBC.
sixfootfenwick
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Do you mean the co-op hatcheries?
This was on Google so take it for what it is worth. Answer is likely if you consider monies from the state agency, government monies.
Cooperative fish hatcheries, like those in Pennsylvania, are primarily funded through fishing license sales. The Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission (PFBC) also provides grants to these nurseries through the Cooperative Nursery Program. Grants are awarded based on applications and a review process by the Cooperative Nursery Unit.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
- Fishing License Sales:
The primary funding source for Pennsylvania's state hatcheries, including those in the Cooperative Nursery Program, is from the sale of fishing licenses. This means that the money from anglers' licenses directly supports the hatchery operations and fish stocking activities.
- Cooperative Nursery Grants:
The PFBC also provides grants to organizations involved in the Cooperative Nursery Program. These grants can be used for new construction, additions and improvements, and equipment at the nurseries.
- Application Process:
Organizations interested in receiving Cooperative Nursery grants must submit an application to the Cooperative Nursery Unit. The application process includes providing information about the organization's responsibilities, intended use of the fish raised, and other relevant details.
- Grant Eligibility:
The PFBC reviews grant applications to determine eligibility for funding. The Cooperative Nursery Unit staff reviews the applications each year, and the final decision on funding is made by the Fish and Boat Commission.
- Partnerships:
Cooperative Nursery Sponsors can also form partnerships with other clubs to support nursery operations with funds or other contributions. These partnerships ensure that all parties comply with the Cooperative Nursery policy.
No. I mean clubs such as sportsman clubs. Are those fully self-funded?
The Rodfather
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My understanding is that those clubs were not created and don't claim to be self-sufficient. PFBC was created and even today claims to not take taxpayer monies and claims to be funded entirely by fishing and boating revenue.
The issue at hand is that the bloated stocking program has made that no longer true as they have to dip into capital funding and grant money from congress to keep the stocking programs afloat because they are so expensive to maintain.
Those grant monies and capital funds could otherwise be spent on more important public goods. Like schools and infrastructure projects that impact much more of the public than stocking trout.
The issue at hand is that the bloated stocking program has made that no longer true as they have to dip into capital funding and grant money from congress to keep the stocking programs afloat because they are so expensive to maintain.
Those grant monies and capital funds could otherwise be spent on more important public goods. Like schools and infrastructure projects that impact much more of the public than stocking trout.
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sixfootfenwick
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They are a mix. Some fund through volunteer work and dues, some operate co operative nurseries. It's why I asked that question.
wildtrout2
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I totally agree Class A streams should be C&R. I believe it's the best way to maintain wild trout populations for the future.
Hey Mairice, Is the part in the above response #329 regarding Fishing License Sales correct? I thought license sales fund day to day activities until the fingerlings are delivered to the Cooperative Nurseries. Then I thought the clubs take over except for periodic site visits by Cooperative Nursery Unit staff, who provide technical guidance.
sixfootfenwick
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Enjoy the thread. You posted once in it
I disagree across the board except for possibly a few specific streams that need to be or have been scientifically identified as having an overharvest problem. They’re going to be a rarity.
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sixfootfenwick
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Yes please clarity because Google isn't the best with facts sometimes, it's why I put on the disclaimer.
sixfootfenwick
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I thought both of Arway's responses to that same notion from you in that thread was good.
But you didn’t like my response to him?😀
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wildtrout2
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How can C&R NOT help maintain wild trout populations?
